Hattie warms up Visible Learning for Pearson; also Hattie and Pasi Sahlberg on YouTube

Hattie’s research is rubbish.

For him, the beauty of it being rubbish is that it allows him to say it says whatever he likes.

In his latest trick he has produced a new book called The Politics of Distraction: What doesn’t work in education.

Pearson and Hattie have begun a huge sales promotion. A call to Nine-to-Noon and there he was being interviewed.

An academic who is to education what an oil spill is to the environment.

The media can’t believe that anyone so renowned can be pulling an education trick. That is his protection and his credibility.

And the more I say things like that, or anyone, the less credible I, or they, sound.

This time he mixes things up, completely contradicting some positions taken earlier, taking up positions on some new things, but underneath the same hard-line, narrow, and top-down educationist he always has been.

And, of course, he’s with Pearson – under TPP such a multi-national will have the freedom to operate in New Zealand in whatever way it chooses.

Where that leaves Cognition I’m at a loss to know? it paid Hattie $272,000 for the intellectual rights to Visual Laboratories, and the latest is warmed up, mishmash of Visual Laboratories.

What he says in Distraction is the same old barrel of writhing snakes.

I’m not going to give credibility to what he says by discussing it further.

Anyway, what is most wrong with Hattie is not his message, as transcendentally wrong as that is, but the medium.

The way forward is not to be found in academic emperors, but in respectful discourse with teachers. It is a discourse with teachers not about them – and freely undertaken.

If you are not with teachers, no matter what you say, you are against them.

The medium is the message.

You might like to see Pasi Sahlberg putting Hattie quietly in his place.

Bruce Hammonds, the editor of the Leading and Learning blog, suggested showing the interview. I was a bit hesitant because while Pasi says some wonderful things, I want New Zealand to do it our way. I’m not a great one for looking overseas.

Bruce had this to say about the interview: Talk about a clash of two worlds. Market forces, individuality, parent choice, and competition versus a community based system based on well-paid and trained teachers; a system strong on equity, a system that values children’s health, wellbeing, and happiness. An inclusive system with no streaming – where the first choice comes in at 16 when students choose between general and vocational education.

 Finland is based on local community control. Schooling is decentralised. Schools have lots of autonomy, responsibility, and initiative. But no parent choice until 16! Finland focuses on equity not individuality and competition. All special education is made inclusive but helped according to need.

 For accountability, Finland relies on its schools and teachers plus NEMP-like sampling.

 The interview showed two people coming from two different worlds – I know which one I like best. One a Labour government should be pushing!

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7 Responses to Hattie warms up Visible Learning for Pearson; also Hattie and Pasi Sahlberg on YouTube

  1. John Carrodus says:

    This interview proves beyond doubt that the host must never wear both the good cop and bad cop hat at the same time when trying to establish who knows what is best in schools by framing trick questions in order to secure the ‘right’ answer. This old trickery did not work and demonstrates the same flawed principle at work in much so called research where the only research is actually in working out what questions precisely will give the researcher the ( correct ) answer they are looking for. This interview is revealing on multiple issues and levels… “enough material here for an entire conference.” – to coin a phrase.

  2. Kelvin says:

    Terrific entry John. Did you notice when Pasi first mentioned equity and Hattie diverted him (to no eventual relief)?

  3. kellyned says:

    Hattie should be labelled as a Politician rather than a researcher!

  4. Foxhound says:

    A classic example of a village raising a child. No choice before 16.!

  5. jmcfadden@qtu.asn.au says:

    Ah the power of subtlty and opinion based on extensive and authentic research. Hattie looked like the commercially motivated capitalist I always he suspected he was…

    • Kelvin says:

      Oh how I have written about this academic fraud, one, who as a young academic produced fantastically wrong research, became captured by it, and has lived a wealth- and power-inducing lie ever since. Oh the harm he has done to the education of probably millions of children. And his fellow quantitatives have just stood by, until very recently, but now too late.

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